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MacBook Air

at 13:41 - 15th, January 2008

hehe, i found it before they actually added a link on the site.

give me your reactions.

Macbook Air link on apple's site


Height: 0.16-0.76 inch (0.4-1.94 cm)
Width: 12.8 inches (32.5 cm)
Depth: 8.94 inches (22.7 cm)
Weight: 3.0 pounds (1.36 kg)

Intel GMA X3100 graphics processor with 144MB of DDR2 SDRAM shared with main memory

Built-in iSight camera


* 80GB 4200-rpm Parallel ATA hard disk drive2
* Optional 64GB solid-state drive2
* Optional external USB MacBook Air SuperDrive

5 hrs battery

Processor and memory

Intel Core 2 Duo processor with 4MB on-chip shared L2 cache running at full processor speed

* 800MHz frontside bus
* 2GB of 667MHz DDR2 SDRAM onboard

clocked at 1.6 and 1.8 core 2 duo

price starts at $1799

andrew andrew
News comment 1 | User comment 1361 | 14:41 - 15th, Jan 2008

fucking intel GMA.. im so pissed

Alex Alex
News comment 2 | User comment 4957 | 15:11 - 15th, Jan 2008

i know eh
but eric raised a couple good points
for starters, there's no way they could fit a real gpu into such a sleek design and it's not aimed at gamers, it's aimed at office people, who don't need the gpu.

not a bad machine when you think of it that way, but for the price, not worth it.

andrew andrew
News comment 3 | User comment 1361 | 17:47 - 15th, Jan 2008

yeah .. but look at the powerbook 12"

the thing is >4 years old and it *still* has a better video card than what's on the MB Air

I'm seriously considering downgrading my MBP to a 12" powerbook, because I'm sick of lugging around such a big laptop.. even the PB is better performing that the macbooks


Carl Carl
News comment 4 | User comment 1159 | 18:22 - 15th, Jan 2008

I am impressed at their thin product. But then again thin is the work. This is all they can come up with in a year? A sub par notebook that is thin and higher priced then anyone else?

God I really hope he retires and hands his company over to people more competent and competitive.

Like this thing cannot be that tough. Insta-Break technology. I just see this falling off a couch and snapping in half.

I was also equally not impressed with the iphone. Nice gadget but as soon as you integrate a billion things, the minute one of them malfunctions you lose those billion other things when you send for repair. Not to mention the absurd price.

My only advice is for Steve to quit. Just quit and let the company save itself.

Alex Alex
News comment 5 | User comment 4957 | 18:55 - 15th, Jan 2008

save itself? maybe intellectually, but market wise they're gaining more and more points, and apple is worth more now than ever.

@andy the pbook is nice and all, but i don't think it could compete with a macbook let alone the pro

besides, parts are hard to find, and a pain in the ass to put in if anything does die.

andrew andrew
News comment 6 | User comment 1361 | 21:42 - 15th, Jan 2008

Processor-wise no, but the video card on the powerbook is more powerful than the macbook and the macbook air.

The powerbook has a really decent Geforce card in it versus the Macbook's lame intel GMA video card

andrew andrew
News comment 7 | User comment 1361 | 21:43 - 15th, Jan 2008

I might get an EEEpc

Alex Alex
News comment 8 | User comment 4957 | 21:54 - 15th, Jan 2008

running windows, i don't think that'll last too long before you either sell it or send it for a refund ;)

js js
News comment 9 | User comment 1051 | 21:59 - 15th, Jan 2008

The reason for the video card was probably more for heat management than anything else. If they had anything more powerful, they'd need to have more fans/heat sinks which would take a lot more room.

Carl Carl
News comment 10 | User comment 1159 | 22:17 - 15th, Jan 2008

Well the only reason they doing so well is cause their shit is over priced. Not to mention a lot of their cash comes from ipod. iphone is doing good mostly due to the ipod integration. iphones are not even really visible in Canada since most cell companies just laugh at Apple for the money they want for it.

Another factor to consider is people love the latest artsy tech.

PC wise they are failures with a niche market who are too close minded to really put it to their competitors.

Steve is smart, he has ideas. But what he needs PC wise to do is suck it up and really make a difference out there. Not impress the tech hippies.

andrew andrew
News comment 11 | User comment 1361 | 8:29 - 16th, Jan 2008

alex ... you know me too well lol

Alex Alex
News comment 12 | User comment 4957 | 9:11 - 16th, Jan 2008

i think apple really only has 2 problems when it comes to mass market appeal.
1. windows is so entrenched in the corporate world that it's going to be very hard for mac/linux/whatever else to get anywhere in there.
bill gates went on stage at CES and said 100 million users have made the switch to vista, sure they have, but they didn't have a choice because 1 their pc came with it or 2 it's a work computer and the higher ups were convinced it was the best thing to do. we've worked at hp, we know how this works.

and the second thing is that apple just can't get the cheap pc thing right. ebay is a perfect example...

Alex Alex
News comment 13 | User comment 4957 | 9:13 - 16th, Jan 2008

Macmini for sale on ebay

and this is 2 generations old. still sells for quite a bit of money. i'd love to get my hands on one and put this server on it...

a brand new mini goes for at least 700 bucks by the way. and the components aren't anything to go crazy for.

jobs doesn't want a cheap mac, it defeats the whole purpose.

Carl Carl
News comment 14 | User comment 1159 | 11:26 - 16th, Jan 2008

Defeats the purpose of what? Appealing to the mass market? The try to target the PC market by their adds. Please switch to us blablabla but then they have nothing except saying how wonderful OSX is but then nothing further to back it up. Sure you can get lots of freeware crap to do what you can do in Windows but it does not do it as well or better. If your lucky you get on par.

People pick windows in general because it works for one and you can do anything without any issue. Sure there are technical glitches etc that all software has but you CAN do anything on it and it is supported. OSX can be something but really all it is, is a half ass attempt at being the alternative. Instead of getting more developers behind them they just release new ipods or new macs.

Carl Carl
News comment 15 | User comment 1159 | 11:27 - 16th, Jan 2008

And yeah second hand macs will always sell more because people were ripped off so they feel that they are entitled to make up for what they lost on the purchase. I do not blame them but people are stupid enough to buy them as it is an expensive piece of art which is deemed cool & hip to have.

js js
News comment 16 | User comment 1051 | 12:53 - 16th, Jan 2008

Kotaku Hatin' On MacBook Air

Apparently the battery can not be removed from the laptop. Now i personaly think that is the stupidest thing i've ever heard. I hope all the people that had to pay 100$ to get the battery replaced in an IPod because of that design flaw are smart enouth not to make the same mistake. Then again, they are buying a mac ;)

Alex Alex
News comment 17 | User comment 4957 | 13:02 - 16th, Jan 2008

i don't agree with you on a lot of points you made. people don't use windows because it works, people use it because either they have to, because building a computer is to complicated or because they don't know any better. point in case is why is linux not as popular as windows? because 1. far to complicated (or at least used to be) and 2. people don't know about it.

as for developers, more and more are going over to the mac's side everyday.

like i said, the main issue is that they just can't get into corporate, which jobs' has said he's not interested in.

as for old macs, not because they're art but because they still work. only recently have they started not supporting older hardware. i have a tower at home that can run the last OS but it's from mid 90's...

Alex Alex
News comment 18 | User comment 4957 | 13:21 - 16th, Jan 2008

this was also a massive prob for apple because at one time no one would update their macs to a newer model because the older one just worked.

i won't argue, aple is a niche type of thing, but they're trying to get out of it while retaining their flare...

and the pricing makes sense when you do the math. they definitely aren't going to sell as much as dell or hp so they charge more. this has been a long argued idea but he doesn't want to budge on the idea

Carl Carl
News comment 19 | User comment 1159 | 13:41 - 16th, Jan 2008

Dude, Windows does work. It comes included with everything on this planet because it can. People would not use it if it were too complicated. Sure people do find it tough. Ok I can see why but still if it was that big an issue as you seem to be pointing out, more would flock to the supposedly easier alternative. People want easy in life and they go where they can.

Apple is a computer, no matter how 'good' their hardware is, they still fail like any other piece of tech. I am sure if I had an apple, did research on failed hardware I am sure I can find the fair share of issues. I have built 2 PC and bought 2 Dells. None have failed in over 5+ years. None period.

Carl Carl
News comment 20 | User comment 1159 | 13:46 - 16th, Jan 2008

And we cannot use Linux as part of the debate. Though most have heard of it in talk. May not know about it but have heard the name. But everyone knows Mac but stay away from them. How does that figure?

Thing is they can be an alternative. The whole Mac arguement is that Windows is horrid and switch because we can do everything more fun. Yet the cannot. If they have all these supposed developers should they not be more ahead then surprise we made the thinnest crappiest notebook ever with the same software we have now.

As for upgrading of course you do not need to upgrade. Upgrade is a gaming thing. Upgrades are pretty much spurred by gaming industry or gasp sophisticated software.

Apple does have it's place but it can and should not at the moment even be compared in the same league.

Carl Carl
News comment 21 | User comment 1159 | 13:50 - 16th, Jan 2008

As an alternative it is poorly thought out as it cannot transcend the gaming spectrum for kids - adults. Software wise they rely on other companies open source when all they need to do is come up with a viable office platform that can perform above and beyond what their competitors can do.

What I am saying is not gibberish or impossible. These are simple things they can get done.

Your pretty much going out there and saying people who cannot build computers or ones that even want to use a PC are idiots because they do not know better. Thats the Steve mentality and why he should go. The commercials and everything surrounding the mystique of Apple is arrogance. Yeah lets insult possible clients. They will really want our products then :D

Carl Carl
News comment 22 | User comment 1159 | 13:53 - 16th, Jan 2008

Dell makes prefabs, Lenovo, HP, Acer, etc all make PC buying easier. Some are better then others but you do not have to be a whiz to be a PC user.

I just personally want to see some stiff competition rather then a running gag. Hey they came up with a cool MP3 player and an easy kick ass service to go with it and that is not their primary market. Go figure they can do that better then the PC market. And yes I refer to it as a PC because like it or not it is a personal computer.

All it takes is the drive to do better and have good solutions. Funny how that works.

John John
News comment 23 | User comment 376 | 14:38 - 16th, Jan 2008

And now to respond in a manner typical of all fanboys for anything... anywhere... ever:

I haven't actually read the article, but I don't need to. This is a stupid idea, because you can't make acomputer out of air! If apple thinks that we'll be fooled by their attempt at proving some sort of alchemical miracle machine that is comprised entirely of air, then they've failed. They suck and can't make a decent computer to save their lives. Neither can Dell or (g)a(y)cer, either. If you don't run it on punch cards it's not a real computer. L3rn 2 c0mput3 n3wbz!

I'm finished, just wanted to get that out of my system. ;)

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