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Gene Simmons - Douche extreme

at 11:02 - 6th, October 2010
Yay, i can start hating another musician aside from the guy from metallica.

Gene Simmons recently was on tv for the midcom event at Cannes in France (beautiful place by the way) and was talking about branding and protecting your brand. This came out:

"Make sure your brand is protected," Simmons warned during a panel discussion. "Make sure there are no incursions. Be litigious. Sue everybody. Take their homes, their cars. Don't let anybody cross that line."

And that includes all those naughty girls and boys with their BitTorrent and Limewire kits. Double for them, in fact.

"The music industry was asleep at the wheel," Simmons complained, "and didn't have the balls to sue every fresh-faced, freckle-faced college kid who downloaded material. And so now we're left with hundreds of thousands of people without jobs. There's no industry."

if you're interested, the full thing can be viewed here, but it's quite long

oh this angers me to no end. the same ars article with the quote above goes on to discuss how suing people has affected the music industry.

But back to that "sue every fresh faced, freckle faced" college kid business. We're talking about something close to 60 million P2P downloaders of all ages by the middle of the last decade. And during the height of the Recording Industry Association of America's file-sharing lawsuits, the trade association admitted that these actions were a total money pit. One estimate suggests that RIAA paid its lawyers more than $16 million in 2008 and recouped a paltry $391,000 in infringement settlements (the RIAA pointed out later that its bills for legal work included all sorts of non-P2P work, however).

The RIAA filed 18,000 to 20,000 legal actions; multiply that by every last American P2P user and the bill would be astonishing. The only two cases to proceed through a trial to a verdict have now been tied up in retrials and appeals, a ferociously expensive and laborious process that simply doesn't scale well.

No worries, says Simmons, who obviously sees himself as quite the wheeler-dealer. "Business is my crack," he declared. "That's what motivates me. Getting up every day and doing deals." And so he offered parables to back his logic.


but it gets better!
any fans of bleach here? You might enjoy Gene Simmons' son's comic book, it's a mange actually. apparently it's a copy of the bleach manga from japan. well more like he's been using the same images and altering the text to suit his own storyline. it's to the point that the bleach team has investigated, the publishers are in talks and the simmons' manga has been pulled until it's all worked out.check this out.

pretty funny how his own son is doing the exact thing that he's preaching against.

• Alex


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News comment 1 | User comment 370 | 12:04 - 6th, Oct 2010

Actually what his son is doing is worse than the average bit torrenter. And KISS was never created to make music, it was created as a business.

The music industry is a money pit to begin with. It's why some guys like Trent Reznor, who understands this, evolved to push their music on their own by collaborating with the internet and various new media. He found he makes more money with live shows anyway. The songs? Those are like promo-flyers to him. Makes a song, pops it online, half the album is free while the rest is for sale, or provides different offers for those who want it (with artsy extras, etc). The new musician uses the internet to their advantage, either offers their music through download with a small fee attached and it's usually very cheap. The music industry itself sheds a deadweight of a middle man who used to get filthy rich screwing the guys who actually did the work. And they fear the internet because their raison d'etre is being eliminated.

Or you know, the USA could do the "socialist" thing and put out a tax that helps covers some of the industries losses like Canada does =p

Alex Alex
News comment 2 | User comment 4968 | 13:27 - 6th, Oct 2010

Canada removed the tax recently.

the changed the entire set of rules for sharing music, movies, games and anything people share.

before, sharing stuff online was considered the same thing as going into a friend's room and asking to borrow a game off his shelf.

the rule is now anything that has drm or some kind of protection is illegal to share online. and the equivalent of the riaa here in canada can come after you for sharing music online. even worse is the fact that the movie industry and music industry have teamed together for this.

personally i would prefer the "tax" on recordable materials, including ipods and other hard drives.

i read somewhere that the tax we paid was eaten up primarily by the industry and very little (<1%) actually got to the creative people.

Schu Schu
News comment 3 | User comment 370 | 15:15 - 6th, Oct 2010

But that's what I mean. It's usually rare for the money to actually go to the creative people in the first place. It aaaaaaaaaaaaall goes to the industry. So this crying about losing money and the poor starving artists...well they were mostly starving even with the money going in to the industry...

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