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STM cracking down on clients without valid fares

at 13:33 - 26th, November 2009
from the Montreal Gazette
MONTREAL - Montreal commuters should keep their OPUS cards and magnetic tickets handy until the end of the trip to avoid paying a hefty fine, Montreal transit officials say.

Société de transport de Montréal inspectors can demand, after the fact, that clients show they have paid a valid fare to ride the bus and métro system. Failure to comply could result in a fine of up to $500.

Inspectors in the surveillance department have been advising customers since May about the use of OPUS cards and magnetic tickets, which serve as both a transfer and proof of payment.

Those benefiting from a reduced fare must always have their photo ID OPUS card with them.

The public transit agency held a news conference Thursday to remind commuters that the fare-control rules are now being strictly enforced.

ridiculous. i hate this OPUS shit, tracking where you go, you need to pay for the actual card yet if you lose it they don't reimburse the monthly fare like they promised they would.

on top of that, with the old system if you paid cash or used a ticket and didn't have a 'receipt' there was nothing they could do. now if you throw out the trasnfer you can get charged 500 bucks?! almost makes me want to drive my car more.

• Alex


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Carl Carl
News comment 1 | User comment 1159 | 14:30 - 26th, Nov 2009

Back on the old system everyone tried to get away with not paying. I seriously can't believe your getting so fucking insulted over a "crackdown" on people following the rules. OPUS is far from the work of the devil. It's like any other card you would get. You fill it up you use it, voila. Same with the new paper versions. You keep track of it. And I think it's $500 bucks in extreme situations. Sure it's a bit much but people constantly try to scam especially on the trains.

Really if OPUS makes you want to drive to stick it to the man then you probably one of those people who tried scamming the system. There is no viable reason to bitch at the system. Is it perfect? probably not but it's a pretty damn good system. No more throwing a bunch of change in the dish and pretending you put your full fare in there.

The more money they make from catching idiots who can't keep track of their stuff the more they can reinvest in the service. Seems like all win to me.

But oh wait, soon they will have tolls on the highways. Whatever will you do lol

Alex Alex
News comment 2 | User comment 4883 | 14:38 - 26th, Nov 2009

i'm not saying i want people to scam the system, i just can't believe that the stm is making people keep their receipts. it's almost the same as walmart or costco checking your receipt when you leave, just useless.

if i go into a restaurant and buy a meal, then i'm on the way to my car after i finish the meal and a cop stops me outside and says, can i see your receipt for the meal. do you think it's right if i didn't pick up the receipt and then get charged 200 times the amount of the meal? no man, it's ridiculous.

i'll gladly pay my tolls on the highway as well. the engineers and service people there actual earn the money they make as opposed to the 50k a year a metro driver, or gateworker earn for sitting on their ass. bloody unions.

and on top of that, i don't have a problem with the coin machines either, i think it's great. i also think you should be able to get change back from the machine if you put in 2 toonies instead of exact change. it's gotta go both ways man.

vikie vikie
News comment 3 | User comment 384 | 15:02 - 26th, Nov 2009

Seems like you are on a rampage these days Carl.

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vikie vikie
News comment 4 | User comment 384 | 15:02 - 26th, Nov 2009

andrew andrew
News comment 5 | User comment 1300 | 17:12 - 26th, Nov 2009

aside from the big brother factor, stm's ability to track users is quite promising. In the future, Montreal transit users will be able to pay for transit based on how much they travel. More and more cities use this now, based on the ability to study peoples destinations. It also makes designing transit routes more effective because the transit body has a better idea of where people go and when. Why should someone going from sainte-annes to downtown pay the same amount as someone who goes from mcgill metro to atwater.. it makes no sense to pay just one blanket fare

Carl Carl
News comment 6 | User comment 1159 | 21:03 - 26th, Nov 2009

They check your receipts at Costco and Wal-Mart because people do to try sneak items past. It is a loss for the store. Unfortunately with our society these days they kind of have to do it. Have you seen wal-mart during poor peoples cheque time. They swarm there with their families and thing mysteriously disappear.

Same thing with OPUS. And it's not like the extreme of asking you in a parking lot. They usually have security that will check on the train during the travel to make sure you have the right fare or when you arrive to Lucien Allier they will wait by the doors to the station so as you get off you show your ticket or card and all done. So is it really that complicated? Using your restaurant example they would ask as you leave rather then wait till you leave and go hey did you pay for your meal. Some like to all those cashiers ;)

Discussion is also far from ranting. May have sarcasm or blunt for some but it's simply an opinion on the topic.

Carl Carl
News comment 7 | User comment 1159 | 21:04 - 26th, Nov 2009

Interested in seeing their real time tracking which is supposed to be activated during the holidays

Schu Schu
News comment 8 | User comment 370 | 13:22 - 27th, Nov 2009

I've never had a problem with my card so I really don't understand what the big deal is. The magnetic paper ones are crap though. Just buy the bloody card.

And when I refill my card, I make sure I keep my receipts just in case. Anyway, you need them for taxes no?

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